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The Electronic Newsletter of the LIBERTY SEATED COLLECTORS CLUB

2013 Volume 9, Issue 1
January 20 1 3 (Whole # 96)

“FUN” LSCC meeting next week!

Auction News
by Jim Gray

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E-Gobrecht Archive
Article Indexing

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Attention Florida United Numismatist (FUN) Show attendees!

Jason Feldman will be hosting a regional meeting of the Liberty Seated Collec-
tors Club on January 11, 2013 at 9 AM at the Orange County Convention Cen-
ter in Orlando, FL. The meeting’s room number is S321. A lively agenda is
planned including the following topics:

• Attendee Introductions

• Club news update

- 40th anniversary medal program update

- Club Historian announcement and roles

• 1839 Seated Dime Pie Shattered Obverse presentation and PCGS EF45
specimen viewing by Gerry Fortin

• Featured presentation by Jason Feldman and Chris Pilliod entitled, "When
Things Go Wrong" which emphasizes Liberty Seated coinage with cracked
dies or other mint errors.

Please try to attend.

40th Anniversary

Activities

by Dennis Fortier

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Upcoming LSCC
Events

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Regional News
by Gerry Fortin

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The Curious
Collector

by Len Augsburger

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Quarter of the Month
by Greg Johnson

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An Interesting
1852-0 Half Dime
By Lynn Ourso

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A Review of 1876
Type II Liberty
Seated Dime Varie-
ties

by Gerry Fortin

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Introducing ...
The LSCC Historian

Call for LSCC Hall of
Fame Nominations

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Readers of the E-Gobrecht may recall seeing recent solicitations for a LSCC
volunteer position as the Club Historian.

Thankfully, Jordan Heyne, a Pennsylvania club member, volunteered
for the job. East Coast members have probably seen him at shows. His role and
anticipated products are still being worked out but we heartily welcome him and
look forward to seeing more of him.

Thanks, Jordan, for stepping up and supporting the club’s activities.

Correction to the
December
E-Gobrecht Quarter
of the Month Column
by Greg Johnson

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Auction News

by Jim Gray, LSCC #664

The Heritage Houston Sale
contained a well struck 1844-0
half dime graded AU53 that
sold for $1,909 and another
graded MS 62 with a spot on
Liberty’s chest soared to
$7,637. A F15 1846 was worth $1,410 and a better
than normal struck MS62 1849-0 hit $2,820.

1838-0 dimes in ALF53 and AU55 sold for
$884 and $1,351. A very nice AU55 1845-0 was
worth $3,525 while an AU53 1846, with a spot in
front of Liberty’s face, hit $5,141.

A well struck AU53 and nicely toned 1842-0
Small Date quarter realized a strong $10,869 despite

a gouge on Liberty’s elbow. An XF40 1858-S hit
$2,938 and a VF35 1859-S with a number of small
spots sold for $1,765. A choice VF35 1860-S went
for $8,813.

An 1839 No Drapery half dollar with the
typical weak strike realized $2,820.

A PR50 1836 Gobrecht dollar from the is-
sue of 12/1836 soared to $18,880 and a PR35 from
the issue of 3/1837 with the head of Liberty opposite
OF sold for $9,988. Gobrecht Dollars are seldom
seen with that much wear. A well struck 1872-S
with smooth surfaces and graded AU55 hammered
for $5,141.

Happy New Year everyone!

E-Gobrecht Archive Article Indexing

Thanks to the massive efforts of Gerry Fortin, we now have an article index for past issues of the E-Gobrecht.
Here is Gerry’s announcement: “Just a quick note that E-Gobrecht indexes are done and currently available on
the www.lsccweb.org and www.seateddimevarieties.com website. The indexes were structured so as to please
as many club members as possible. Here is a quick description as copied from one of the websites:

E-Gobrecht Search Indexes

Index for all Tonics - Index ordered by Liberty Seated coinage denomination and publishing date. Also indexed
are general Seated coinage articles, numismatic literature articles and a host of LSCC club articles and regional
meeting results.

Half Dime and Dime Articles - Half dime and dime indexes only presented by publishing date and by coinage
date.

Double Dime and Quarter Articles - Double dime and quarter indexes only presented by publishing date and
by coinage date.

Half Dollar and Dollar Articles - Half Dollar and Seated, Trade and Gobrecht Dollar indexes only presented
by publishing date and by coinage date.

General Seated Coinage Articles - General Seated coinage index plus those for Christian Gobrecht, Question
of Month, numismatic literature and contemporary counterfeits.

LSCC and Gobrecht Journal Articles - Numerous topics related to LSCC regional meetings and other rele-
vant news including Gobrecht Journal reviews

The full index is available at the first link entitled "Index for all Topics." The subsequent index links are for
those people who only want to search a particular denomination or sets of topics. The twist with the individual
denomination indexes is that I added a sort by coinage date along with the publishing date.

So for a trial run, simply go to www.lsccweb.org and then the E-Gobrecht Archives tab. The indexes are
placed on top of the archiving of all E-Gobrecht issues to date.

Thanks for the hard work, Gerry. Readers, try it out.

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40th Anniversary Activities

by Dennis Fortier, LSCC #201 6

Official Ordering Period for 40th Anniversary Medal is now over

The final ordering date for the 40th Anniversary medal has now past. We received orders for nearly 300
silver and over 20 gold medals. Per the orders, most of the gold medals will have the LSCC member’s
number and name stamped on the edge of the medal but a few have requested only the LSCC number. We
are in the process of finalizing the order. We believe Dan Carr, the minter, will have the medals ready for
us at the March 2013 Baltimore Show.

Len Augsburger has done a great job handling the finances of this major project. There is quite a lot
of logistics involved with all the gold coins and money coming in from many points, and then going out to
the minter. Many thanks, Len!

I’ve had a couple of members come forward to do articles for the 40th Anniversary edition of the
Gobrecht Journal but we can use more. Please consider contributing some offering. Newer members are
very welcome to contribute something; perhaps with your experiences with the club so far.

Upcoming LSCC Events

January 11, 2013, Orlando, FL, FUN Convention, Orange County Convention Center,
Southern LSCC Regional meeting, 9 AM, room S321.

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TV'S February 1-2, 2013, Manchester, NH, Coin and Currency Expo, LSCC table and regional

meeting during the afternoon of February 2, more details TBD.

February 7, 2013, Long Beach, CA, Long Beach Coins, Stamp and Collectables Expo, Spe-
cial LSCC Regional Meeting, 7 PM, Rock Bottom Restaurant and Brewery.

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Regional News

by Gerry Fortin, LSCC #1054

Happy New Year to all fellow
club members! 2013 starts an-
other active year of LSCC
meetings as regional directors
strive to maintain our localized
gathering throughout the U.S.
for maximum club member participation.

The first 2013 regional meeting will be at the
Florida United Numismatic show in Orlando on Fri-
day, January 1 1 at 9:00 AM in Room S321. South
Regional Director, Jason Feldman, promises an in-
formative session with emphasis on Liberty Seated
coinage with cracked dies or other mint errors. In-
cluded in the session will be the introduction of the
LSCC Club Historian, a 40^^ medal program report,
and viewing of recently announced 1839 PCGS
EF45 Liberty Seated dime with Pie Shattered Ob-
verse.

Several few weeks after the FUN show, the
club moves back to the Northeast for a regional

meeting at the New Hampshire Coin and Currency
Expo in Manchester, NH on February 1-2. Our
Northeast Regional Director, Dennis Fortier, will
host an LSCC table and regional meeting at the
show. The regional meeting is planned during the
afternoon of February 2. Club members in the area
are invited to contact Dennis to help staff the LSCC
table and to provide interesting Liberty Seated coins
for display.

Immediately following the Manchester, NH
meeting, club attention shifts to the West Coast and
the Long Beach Coins, Stamps and Collectibles
Expo. Western Regional Director, Craig Eberhart, is
planning an alternate type of regional meeting and
has scheduled a February 7, 7:00 PM session at the
Rock Bottom Restaurant and Brewery. Club mem-
bers are invited to sample their favorite spirits while
engaging in a lively discussion on Liberty Seated
topics. Rumor has it that a national dealer will buy
the first round so get there early. ...

April 2012

David Lange, at right in photo, visiting the
Bugert home in Gettysburg, PA. Dave was
doing research at The Beistle Company in
Shippensburg, PA for his upcoming book on
Wayte Raymond / National Albums. Look
for it soon.

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cash. The upcoming January sales will give us a good
"product" coming out of the grading services, etc., but indication!
at some point it comes down to the simple psychology

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The Curious Collector

by Len Augsburger, LSCC #1 271

Once again the mega-
January auctions are upon
us. Every year the auction
companies try to outdo
last year's performance,
and this year they may
actually succeed. This year's action starts out not
with a coin, but with an announcement - Heritage is
selling the Walton example of the 1913 Liberty
nickel, and will be hosting a preview reception at the
FUN show in Orlando next week. A lovely advertis-
ing piece on heavy card stock recently arrived in this
author's mailbox, quite likely just the first of several
over the next few months. Heritage cataloguer Mark
Borckardt, the co-author of Million Dollar Nickels
(the story of the 1913 Liberty nickel), will no doubt
be giving the computer keyboard quite a workout on
the subject.

The prize of the January sales is the Cardinal
collection being sold by Stack's Bowers Galleries at
the end of the month. Focused on the earliest federal
coinage, the collection includes what may be the first
1794 dollar struck, an ultra-high grade 1792 half
disme, and early copper in grades that are not sup-
posed to exist. On display at the November 2012
Baltimore show, I was particularly struck by one
1794 large cent graded "Red" by PCGS. Anyone
with a pile of copper cents in a desk drawer or
change jar knows how fast they can change color - a
few months in bad air and already you can see the
red fading. So the chances of a copper coin surviv-
ing over 200 years with original color are extraordi-
narily slim. But one did, and the market will put a
price on it in a few weeks.

Not be outdone. Heritage comes with a mini-
hoard of seven 1792 half dismes, a veritable opportu-
nity to build a grading set! My favorite item in the
Heritage sale is the strongest run of 19th century
proof half dollars in recent memory. Beginning with
the 1807 in a PCGS Specimen holder, all the rarities
are here - 1838-0, 1839-0, all the early Liberty

Seated half dollars including the 1853 arrow & rays,
and the branch mint proof 1855-S. For good meas-
ure, the discovery VF20 1842 small date, small let-
ters half dollar is also in the sale, one of four known.
The 1807 is a most intriguing coin - there is no docu-
mentation surrounding the precise manner of strik-
ing, so all you can do is look at the coin and record
what you observe. John Dannreuther conducted a
careful examination, and settled on the description of
a "one-sided specimen/proof," adding that "it is what
it is. ...the most spectacular Draped Bust Heraldic Ea-
gle half dollar the author has ever seen!"

Our good friends at Stack's had precisely the
same problem with a previously unknown bronze
1943 cent which appears in their sale. Most "bronze"
1943s are of course fakes, but a few are known to
have been mistakenly struck on 1942 bronze cent
planchets. The issue with this coin is that the compo-
sition does not match what one would expect for a
1942 bronze planchet. Roger W. Burdette has re-
cently uncovered records of various experimental
compositions tested during the wartime years - this
piece does not appear to match these compositions
either. So, while the coin is unquestionably authen-
tic, the composition is previously unrecorded, and the
successful purchaser will be acquiring not only a
unique specimen, but a research project as well!

While all these high-powered and exotic rari-
ties may seem far removed from the circulated date
and mintmark collections of the Liberty Seated col-
lector, one must realize that deep pocketed buyers
will not chase these prizes without confidence in the
market. The buyers of the $100 and $200 coins form
a foundation for the next level of the pyramid, and so
on. Not only that, but confidence and strength in the
market can flow in both directions - people see confi-
dence at the high end or low end, and become more
confident themselves. Of course, there are always
fundamentals in the coin market related to dealer and
collector cash positions, gold prices, the rate of

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Quarter of the Month

by Greg Johnson, LSCC #1460

Happy New Year! I am looking
forward to 2013 with great nu-
mismatie anticipation for a cou-
ple of reasons. First, it is the
LSCC’s 40th anniversary and we
have some really spectacular
medals being made. Second, the first Top 25 Liberty
Seated Quarter Variety Survey is going to be con-
ducted this year. I have been working with LSCC
president John McCloskey on the survey form,
which LSCC members can look forward to receiving
with the next Gobrecht Journal (GJ). The form will
include each of the Top 25 varieties described in Is-
sue #111 of the GJ plus 5 additional varieties. The
five “extra” varieties on the survey will include the
four varieties described over the last four months of
this column as being “too rare” to include in the
original list, plus the variety described below in this
month’s column. It remains unclear just how rare
the four “too rare” varieties may be at this point and
we are hoping the survey will shed some light. So,
in order to accurately complete the upcoming survey

you will need the original Top 25 article from GJ
Issue #111 and the E-Gobrecht “Quarter of the
Month” columns from September, October, Novem-
ber and December 2012, as well as January 2013
(which you are reading right now).

This month’s variety, which will be the 30th
and final coin on the survey, is the 1876-CC, Briggs’
1-A and 2-A, reverse of 1873-CC No Arrows. This
is an intriguing variety due to the fact that, whereas
the vast majority of collectors will never own an
1873-CC No Arrows quarter, the 1876-CC is a quite
common and inexpensive coin. The 1873-CC No
Arrows quarter has long been recognized as a great
rarity, with a mere 5 specimens known from an origi-
nal recorded mintage of 4,000. The second finest of
the five known specimens (Figure 1 below) sold for
$460,000 this past summer as Lot 1 1094 in the
Stack’s Bowers ANA Sale of the Battle Born Collec-
tion. If you are a Liberty Seated enthusiast and do
not yet have a copy of the Battle Bom Collection
catalog - get one now! It is a must read for anyone

Figures 2 and 3: 1873-CC NA Quarter— Battle Born Collection (courtesy of Stack's Bowers)

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interested in Carson City coinage. Rusty Goe, writ-
ing in the Stack’ s-Bowers catalog, noted that,
“Numismatists of all ranks and classes regard this
issue, the 1873-CC No Arrows, with particular awe
and admiration. Only one other coin from the Carson
City Mint surpasses its regality and rarity.’’

No one who collects Liberty Seated Quarters,
or has spent even a few minutes closely studying a
price guide, will need reminded of the rarity and
popularity of “The Big Four CC’s” - the 1870-CC,
1871-CC, 1872-CC and 1873-CC With Arrows quar-
ters. All four of these issues, with a total combined
mintage of 54,542 pieces, were struck using the same
reverse die. The 1873-CC No Arrows quarter, for
some reason, was produced using a different reverse
die. Larry Briggs, writing in Issue 46 of the Go-
brecht Journal (November 1989, reprinted starting
on page 279 of Collective Volume 3), details the pro-
duction dates and die shipment records for the Car-
son City quarters produced from 1870-73, as well as
the diagnostic markers for the 1873-CC No Arrows
quarter reverse die. Briggs explains, “In October
1872 the Carson City Mint requested three new ob-

Figures 3 and 4: 1876-CC Quarter with

verses but no new reverse dies for the striking of
quarter dollars. On November 9, 1872, three obverse
dies dated 1873 without arrows arrived. At this point
the Carson City Mint had on hand a total of four dif-
ferent reverses it could have used to strike CC quar-
ters. But up to this point [only one reverse, the one
first used in 1870] had been employed. Now, for
some reason, the mint decided to use one of the other
three reverses on hand. On January 18, 1873, the
Carson City Mint struck 4,000 pieces of the 1873-
CC No Arrows quarter using the new reverse die. On
February 12, 1873, the Coinage Act was passed,
making the No Arrows quarters underweight in rela-
tion to the new coinage. Most of these pieces seem to
have been melted by the Mint on or before July 10,
1873. Only one obverse die and one reverse die are
known to have been used to strike the 1873 No Ar-
rows quarter. But the reverse die is different from
that used to strike previous Carson City quarters.
Only one obverse die was used to strike the 1873
with arrows quarters. This die was paired with the
old reverse that was used to make quarters dated
1870-1872.”

No quarters dated 1874 were struck at the
Carson City mint. When production resumed in

R©V0rse of 1873-CC NA (courtesyof Heritage Auctions)

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1875, with mintage of 140,000 pieces, neither of the
reverse dies described above was utilized. The re-
verse die used from 1870-1873was never used again,
as far as we now know. However, at some point dur-
ing 1876, the reverse die used to strike the 1873-CC
No Arrows quarters was placed back into service.
True mass production of quarters commenced at Car-
son City in 1876 with a total of 4,944,000 pieces pro-
duced for the year. Briggs’ Comprehensive Encyclo-
pedia of United States Liberty Seated Quarters
(Lima, OH 1991), which incidentally uses the 1873-

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Once the desk was completely opened, he
discovered many Nazi medals ( the one he got the
biggest kick out of was one for having so many
children for the Fatherland). My Dad gave
away all the medals to his troops - but he noticed
a very unusual coin hidden in one of the com-
partments. It was so small he almost over
looked it.

As Dad had never seen a Half Dime be-
fore - he thought the denomination odd - but a
Half Dime is worth Five Cents - the price of an
ice cream cone at Kelly's Landing in Boston. So,
he slipped it into his uniform pocket - and after
the war, while going thru his uniform, he redis-
covered it. He simply put it in his bureau drawer
- where it sat (thru three moves and many years)
until I started collecting - and the little Half
Dime was again brought to light.

While my Dad was still alive, I wanted to
send the coin into PCGS for grading. I wish I
had, but I just never did. Recently, the coin was
graded and I had it imaged by Messy Desk.

My friend Glenn Holsonbake asked that I

CC No Arrows quarter as its cover images, catalogs
15 distinct die pairs known as of publication with
more discovered since. The 1873-CC No Arrows
reverse (identified at 1876-CC reverse A in the book.
Figure 4) was paired with two different 1876 ob-
verses. Both of the obverses are heavily rusted to the
point that even mint state coins show almost no head
detail (Figure 3). The variety is quite scarce, making
up a small percentage (i.e. much less than 5) of the
extant 1876-CC quarters, but cannot be legitimately
considered rare within the context of the Liberty
Seated Quarter series. It can be found, with suffi-
cient patience, in all grades.

show the coin to a New Orleans coin collector,
Lynn Ourso and both he and Glenn got a big
kick out of this tiny coin. It seems as though this
coin is a V-2 and it’s an R-5. Lynn said it was
the finest V-2 and the top pop for this variety
that he has seen at this time. There is a die
crack from the rim through star one to the Hand
of Liberty.

I wish Dad could still be with us to share
this news. But, having this Half Dime is like
having a small part of him with me. “

Mike Hayes

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An Interesting 1852-0 Half Dime

By Lynn Ourso, LSCC #1676

At the FUN show back in 201 1 I was introduced to
Mike Hayes by Glenn Holsonbake. Mike had a coin
that he had acquired from his father and wanted an
opinion to whether it was rare and overall what I
thought about the coin. After examining the coin, to
my surprise it was an 1852-0 half dime V-2 PCGS
XF-40. The diagnostics for this coin is a die crack
on the obverse from the rim thru star 1 and continu-
ing to Ms. Liberty's arm. This variety was just dis-
covered not too many years prior to seeing this coin
and is still quite scarce if not rare. At the time it was
the highest grade that I had come across. As you
may have guessed... there was not enough money to
pry this coin from Mike. After he told me the history
of this coin, I then realized why he wouldn't sell it.
Below is Mike's story on his half dime.

“Back in late 1944 - early 1945 my Dad,
who was in the Army was in charge of requisi-
tions and his Division, took command of a castle
in Germany. Our troops found the residence
abandoned and my Dad picked out an office for
himself that contained a very elaborate hand
carved desk with many locked doors and cubi-
cles. Using his bayonet, he pried open these
doors and the drawers of this desk - "just in
case ".

My Dad said he was as careful as he
could be because it was one of the nicest pieces
of furniture he had ever seen.

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A Review of 1876 Type II
Liberty Seated Dime Varieties

by Gerry Fortin, LSCC #1054

Building a set of the five known 1876 Type II reverse varieties in Extra Fine or better grade might be an
enjoyable while inexpensive ehallenge for a Seated dime variety specialist. This article focuses on an area
of Seated dime variety collecting that remains a cherry picking opportunity for anyone with the time and
patience to search out elusive varieties embedded in an otherwise common and high mintage date.

First let’s review the difference between the two different reverse styles hubs that appeared during
three years starting with 1876 coinage. The two different reverse hub styles were entitled Type I and Type
II by Kamal Ahwash in his Encyclopedia on Liberty Seated dimes and feature minor changes in the bow
knot’s ribbon ends and in the positioning of denomination ONE DIME with respect to wreath design ele-
ments. The two reverse hub styles were employed by the three mints from 1876 through 1878, except for
1877 coinage produced at the San Francisco mint. Only the Type II reverse hub has been found for I877-S
dimes. There have been rumors of usage of a I877-S Type I reverse, with Breen listing this variety as
#3403 in his Complete Encyclopedia of U.S. and Colonial Coins. However Ahwash, Greer and Fortin have
yet to document an example.

The Type I reverse hub can be identified by a double point left ribbon end and the "E" in ONE al-
most touching the wheat grains. For Type II reverse hub, using the same identifiers, the left ribbon end is
long and has single point while the "E" in ONE is distant from the wheat grains.

Ribbon Ends - Type I vs. Type II Hubs

Type I - Split or double left ribbon end

Type II - Single left ribbon end

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Position of ON(E) - Type I vs. Type II Hubs

Type I - E is near the wheat grains Type II - E i$ distant from wheat grains

As mentioned at the opening of this article, five different 1876 Type II are known and fully illus-
trated at www.seateddimevarieties.com . Mintage of 1876 Philadelphia dimes was substantial for that time
period (11,461,150) and over 50 die pairs were probably prepared. Locating high grade examples and as-
sessing rarity for 1876 coinage with Type II reverse hub has been a several decade long project built upon
Kamal Ahwash’s earlier research and variety definitions. The following is a brief summary of the five dif-
ferent Type II reverse hub die pairings.

Fortin 101 and 101a - Obverse 1 / Reverse A (Ah wash 4)

The most frequently seen Type II die pairing and can be located in early and late die states. Date
position is DR OBI. Late die states examples (F-lOla) are found with cracked reverse die that is obvious
on eBay or dealer images. This variety comes well struck and is good choice for Type II reverse selection

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in a Top 200 or Ultimate variety set.

Fortin 102 - Obverse 2 / Reverse B (Ah wash 5)

Infrequently seen and high R4 to low R5 in Extra Fine or better grade. Date position is DR OR and
note the irregular appearance of DIME on the reverse. The I and M in DIME are poor aligned with the
outer letters D and E. Only several examples seen with strikes being variable. Ahwash did not publish im-
ages for A-5 listing; this die pair best matches his description.

Fortin 103 - Obverse 3 / Reverse C, Repunched 1 (Ahwash 6)

Can be identified by date position DR IL with a repunched 1 digit; repunching on top of flag. Re-
verse seen with early and late die states; later die states exhibit die cracks throughout the wreath. Not pic-
tured in Ahwash’ s Encyclopedia but listed as A-6. Strong strikes are available.

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Fortin 104 - Obverse 4 / Reverse D (Ah wash 7)

Date placement is furthest left of the 1876 Type II varieties; date measurement is DR OC. Comes
fully struck and is the second easiest to locate after F-101. Reverse will show some minor die cracks on the
right ribbon and in the lower left wreath.

Fortin 105 - Obverse 5 / Reverse E (Ah wash 8)

Ahwash did not publish an image for A-8 variety; this die pair best matches his description. Proba-
bly the most difficult to locate other than F-102. Again strong strike is the rule with reverse die cracks
throughout left and right wreath area. Date placement is DR OR.

Summary Points

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• 1876 Type II are nearly always found with strong strikes and bold head detail

• No reverse die doubling seen on any Type II reverses

• Type II reverse dies are often seen with die cracks indicating reasonably long production runs

• F-102 is most difficult to locate then F-105 as second most difficult

• F- 101 is easiest to find followed by F-104

• Building a five dime 1876 Type II variety set could be done with as little as $200-$300 (EF grade)
and some longer term patience.

As Always, Happy Hunting!

Call for LSCC
Hall of Fame
Nominations

The Hall of Fame Committee composed of club members Bill Bugert, Len Augsburger, Gerry Fortin,
Mark Sheldon, and Tom DeLorey wishes to inform the membership that we are accepting nominations
for the Liberty Seated Collectors Club’s 2012 Hall of Fame (HoF). Please consider honoring
noteworthy individuals to this prestigious distinction for their contributions to the club and/or to the
advancement of collecting Liberty Seated coinage.

Basic qualifications for club member nominees are significant advances in or contributions to at
least one of the following four criteria:

• Numismatic Research on Liberty Seated coinage

• Numismatic Literature related to Liberty Seated coinage

• CoUection(s) of Liberty Seated coinage

• LSCC Club officer (for at least five years).

Previous inductees to the HoF include Kamal M. Ahwash (deceased), John W. McCloskey, Alfred E.
Bl)dhe (deceased), Randall E. Wiley, and Brian Greer.

The Committee is accepting nominations in two categories: an active club member and a veteran (pre-
founding of the LSCC [1973]); an announcement of the new inductee(s) will be made at the LSCC’s
annual meeting. The nominations must be received no later than April 15, 2013 and are due to the HoF
Chairman, Bill Bugert, via email at wb8cpy@earth1ink.net or via postal mail at Bill Bugert, 1230 Red
Rock Road, Gettysburg, PA 17325 or to Bill via telephone at (717) 337-0229.

2013 Volume 9, Issue I (January 20 1 3)

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The December Quarter of the Month had a critical typographical error, which I wanted to correct
for the January’s E-Gobrecht. The mintmark right is reverse B and the mintmark left is reverse A. This
was reversed in the original article. The corrected version below. Thanks for reading. GJ

This month is the fourth and final column in a four part series on seated quarter varieties left off of
the Top 25 list for being too rare. September’s column featured the 1854 thin date, October’s the 1856 Flag
of 6 in the Shield, and November’s the 1857-0 Briggs 7-C with the top of “18” in the obverse denticles be-
low the date. This month we look at the 1858-S with far left mintmark. There are two reverses for the
1858-S quarter listed in Briggs’ Comprehensive Encyclopedia of United States Liberty Seated Quarters
(Lima, OH 1991); one positioned slightly left of center and one positioned slightly right of center. Larry
Briggs describes the newly discovered “far left mintmark” variety on page 35 of Gobrecht Journal Issue 58,
November 1993 (reprinted on page 384 of Collective Volume 4) and named the apparently unique obverse
and reverse dies 3-C, respectively.

Discovery of the mintmark far left variety is credited to Michael E. Friedman during 1992; the dis-
covery coin grades XF and was the only specimen reported in the 1993 LSCC survey. Ten examples were
reported in the 2007 survey. I remain skeptical of this number due to the lack of description and the choice
of names for the varieties. The survey listing referred to right, left and centered mintmarks. With the only
photos in Briggs’ book being of “right” and “left” and no variety having a truly centered mintmark, it seems
likely that a number of Briggs 1-A coins could have been mistakenly attributed as 3-C. This is particularly
an issue because no further description was offered with the survey and the only photos of the “far left”
mintmark are in the Gobrecht Journal from 1993 (and the reprint in Collective Volume 4). I have, in the
past 8 years, personally verified no more than 4 examples of the variety in all grades and suspect that the
total known is still less than 10. Photos of Briggs reverse A (mintmark left), reverse B (mintmark right) and
reverse C (mintmark far left) are shown left to right below.

1858-S Reverse A (MM left) 1858-S Reverse B (MM right) 1858-S Reverse C (MM far left)

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